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Briland - Inadvertent Cruise Stop?
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Posted by:May 17th 2006, 12:50:17 am
KimberlyDavid, I'm sure that they cleared customs in Nassau, as Hapog-Lloyd has been running luxury cruises from NYC to Nassau since the days of my grandfather's first visits to the Bahamas back in 1937 ... Smitty, my true true love doesn't mind the fact that at any given time, eight kinds of Caribbean rum are making their home in our bar ;-). Timing is everything, everything, everyt'ing.
Posted by:May 16th 2006, 11:27:01 pm
Dave ChenowethDid Bahamian Customs and Immigration clear the ship and passengers at HI or any Bahamian Port of Entry before these folks came to the beach?
Posted by:May 16th 2006, 03:58:47 pm
smittyAh, Kimberly, you're so perceptive.If only you were a Martini drinker, I'd marry you.
Posted by:May 15th 2006, 08:43:25 pm
KimberlyI don't think that anyone here has anything against luxury cruise ships. But it's an issue of capacity when we're talking about a beach that is barely three miles along and already supporting several resorts, restaurants and homeowners. It would also have been nice to have coordinated the visit a bit better by advising the local beachside businesses in advance of the proposed 'experiment' to get an idea as to their concerns with the logistics. Harbour Island promotes itself as a destination for couples, families and singles for a reason ... and not as a mass-market destination, because we simply don't have the bandwidth.
Posted by:May 15th 2006, 08:40:51 am
FionaThis question by no means endorses the cruise ship visit to HI, however, if the island is so regularly featured in magazines and wins prestigious awards; then is it not inevitable that tourists/cruise ships etc will want to come to the island? would be interested to hear your views.
Posted by:May 13th 2006, 09:45:45 am
snowyOur family comes to HI because there ARE no cruise ships....yet, it seems.
Posted by:May 11th 2006, 11:30:07 pm
MarkJust two people are saying negative things about the HI residents reaction to the cruise ship situation. They most certainly do not represent the majority, if the people on Eleuthera liked crowded beaches they would be in Nassau.

Posted by:May 11th 2006, 10:23:28 pm
KimberlyWow -- just saw the conversation at, and they're calling the Brilanders a bunch of snobs for not wanting 200 cruisers to invade the beach.
Posted by:May 11th 2006, 07:03:19 pm
TMany damage to the reef? Is the Arch still intact? Anchors can wreak havoc on the reef and that is or maybe was a good diving spot.
Posted by:May 11th 2006, 04:52:58 pm
KimberlyHey, Molasses ... thanks for posting! What facts presented so far need to be updated? Everything here has either come from bystanders, the newspaper or the cruise line's website. Any and all corrections, updates, suggestions are more than welcome here.

Posted by:May 11th 2006, 01:47:06 pm
FrazierRegardless of the "fact's" I am not a fan of the Condo Commandos raiding HI.
Posted by:May 11th 2006, 12:36:55 pm
islandmolassesMy view on this is simple, ensure that your facts are correct before posting messages on this board, because some of the information is incorrect.
Posted by:May 11th 2006, 10:41:04 am
smitty9,000 tons is only a baby.There are ships that go 110,000 tons and hold 2000 tourists.How would you like 3 of them stacked up off the ocean side, escourting 500 0r more of them with ther funny hats and tee shirts, box lunches and bottles of Chardonney to the beach?Somebody or bodies wanted HI in main stream tourism.Katie bar the door, it's here.
Posted by:May 10th 2006, 06:42:06 pm
MaryThat's great..Just some more unwanted guest on HI..Hasn't all the press already done enough damage..
Posted by:May 10th 2006, 03:41:02 pm
Fig Tree News Team

"only" a 9,000-ton ship!
Posted by:May 10th 2006, 03:28:23 pm
KimberlyKey West, here we come????
Posted by:May 10th 2006, 12:58:34 pm
Fig Tree News TeamFrom today's Nassau Tribune:

Residents of Harbour Island were in uproar yesterday when a cruise ship anchored offshore and unloaded nearly 200 passengers on to the island's premier beach.

Some islanders were asking "Is this the beginning of the end?" as crowds of holidaymakers came ashore in dinghies. "We are just incredulous - it's like an invasion," said restaurant owner Julie Lightbourn.

The small cruise ship moored off the beach serving the luxury Pink Sands and Coral Sands hotels. Its passengers arrived with snorkelling gear, swamping what is normally a quiet exclusive beach used mainly by upscale tourists.

Ms Lightbourn said: "I am curious to know the meaning of this. I don't think it is the right direction for Harbour Island to be taking."

Ms Lightbourn, who runs the Sip Sip Restaurant on the seafront, said islanders had been told by local Ministry of Tourism representatives that the cruise ship visit was an experiment. But she said there was no prior consultation and everyone was taken by surprise.

According to Tourism officials in Nassau, the ministry had nothing to do with the visit and was also not consulted in advance.

The mainly middle-aged and elderly tourists - believed to be mostly Germans - were disembarked from the Hanseatic, a ship owned by a European cruise line. It is used mainly for "discovery cruises to exotic locations", according to its owners.

As passengers came ashore, many headed for beach equipment owned by the two luxury hotels. As a result, guests paying up to $500 a night for exclusive accommodation began lodging protests with management, claiming they were never told the island was a cruise ship resort.

Yesterday, one businessman said: "What will happen next? Will we be having three or four cruise ships arriving at the same time, with people using jet-skis and the like?

"These people have come off the ship and camped on the beach. They are going into the hotels to use toilet facilities. It is a crazy situation.

"They have brought their own food and beverages, so they are bringing nothing to the island but their trash."

Local ministry representative Prescott Young was deluged with complaints from winter residents, hoteliers and other business owners.

The theme of the protests was that Harbour Island is an exclusive small island resort, not a replica of Paradise Island. He promised to pass on their views to his bosses in Nassau.

Another business source said: "Harbour Island is an exclusive destination. People pay a premium to come here. If they wanted hair-braiders and jet-skis and the like, they would go to Nassau."

During the morning a "ferry service" of motor launches was running between the ship and the beach. "This whole thing was unannounced and is a no-win situation for Harbour Island," said an islander.

"We have enough nonsense going on here with the local council without this happening. It makes me wonder whether the administrator's office is not now going into the tourist business."

According to Tourism Director General Vernice Walkine, the Ministry of Tourism was just as surprised by the visit as the local population.

Ms Walkine explained that while it is part of the ministry's strategy to encourage small luxury cruise ships to call at ports throughout the Bahamas, this does not necessarily mean that Harbour Island will be one of the target destinations.

Had the ministry been aware of the stop, she added, the matter would have been handled "a lot differently".

Mrs Walkine said she believes the visit was organised between the cruise company and local government officiais.

The director general assured Harbour Island resident that even if a future cruise stop is contemplated, it will not take place in the same fashion, as all parties have now been informed that the Port Authority is the appropriate body through which to organise such events."

Source: The Tribune
Posted by:May 10th 2006, 12:55:06 pm
ColinMost countries laws allow anyone to visit a beach up to the high water mark but you aren't allowed to venture beyond that. I don't know Bahamian law on this point and would be very interested to hear what it is. Right of way can be established from shore to the beach, in keeping with British common law. Is there a similar dispensation from the sea to shore? Does each island have the power to regulate entry to its shores, presuming it is inhabited?
Posted by:May 10th 2006, 10:48:34 am
FrazierI think that if you have never been to HI, you should not be able to! We already have the Fast Ferry!
Posted by:May 10th 2006, 10:09:42 am
smittyWondering what the officials of HI can actually do about it, if anything? (I mean besides mining the harbor)

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